Interview With Larry Klayman | The Fixers | FRONTLINE

Q: Where has the investigation of Ron Brown led?

Klayman: Unfortunately, the investigation of Ron Brown by Independent Counsel Daniel Pearson concluded at [Brown's] death....We've seen no indication that the Justice Department has followed through with its investigation, just like we've seen no indication that the Department of Justice is...investigating the campaign finance scandal as a whole...

Just today I took the deposition of the secretary of John Huang, Janice Stewart?. I asked Janice Stewart if she's ever been contacted by anyone at the Department of Justice about John Huang. She said, "No." I've asked other key witnesses in our case whether they've ever heard from the Department of Justice. The answer was, "No."

We know that Janet Reno has been resisting appointing an independent counsel...[and] has been doing the investigation in-house at the Department of Justice. Obviously, an attorney general who was appointed by Pres. Clinton cannot investigate her own Chief Executive Officer. Nor can she investigate her own administration.

Q: You also asked John Huang's secretary about contact with the Lums?

Klayman: That's correct. We asked Janice Stewart...whether she had ever talked by telephone with Nora Lum. And she said that she had, but she could not remember the subject of the conversation. We also asked Janice Stewart...whether she had ever been asked to shred documents in [the] office...occupied by John Huang...and others.

And she said that on a number of occasions,...she had been asked by Mr. Huang and others to shred documents. [She said] that there were no policy or guidelines on which documents to shred, that there was a shredder in the office, and that sometimes there was so much shredding that the shredder would break down.

...In addition, we learned that Melinda Yee, a close assistant to John Huang, destroyed documents of notes that she took on trade missions. And we've also learned through our depositions that many of the witnesses [whom] we've deposed inexplicably have developed short memories. That is, they can't remember simple facts...

Last but not least,...although we've received thousands of documents, we've never received any...communications [between the Commerce Department] and... the White House or...the Democratic National Committee. This is obviously impossible, because the Democratic National Committee's own brochures say that they were selling...diplomatic trade missions.

These types of activities all point to the fact that the Clinton administration does not want to come clean -- that it's engaged in a huge cover-up..., that witnesses have likely been intimidated to have short memories, and that [many] documents...remain unaccounted for...

Q: What were the Lums up to? What did they really want?

Klayman: We don't know everything that they want, but what we have been able to piece together, as trial lawyers often do, is that [the] facts add up to the Lums trying to buy [the] influence of Secretary Ron Brown and the Clinton administration.

First and foremost, they hired the son of Ron Brown...as a lobbyist. Ron Brown's son has never passed the bar exam to this day. Why would they hire the son of Ron Brown if they didn't want special favors out of the Clinton administration? We know that the son of Ron Brown owned golf [club] memberships paid for by the Lums and Dynamic Energy. We know that Ron Brown's son owned shares of stock in the company. It has been alleged that Ron Brown himself was receiving monies through his son from the Lums.

These are all matters that were being investigated by the independent counsel when Ron Brown died. These are matters [that] the Department of Justice is supposed to be investigating now.

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